[Team] RoC

[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

Last post of the previous page :

m'ouais journée en piste, c'est peu être effectivement les pneus que le mécano à choisi pour ce jour... donc comme il n'est pas bête s'il pleut... ba il met des pneus adaptés... faut voir...

[[GTC] manucobalt]

Les pneus "journée en piste" sont des pneus à structure radial qui équipent les voitures de séries. Se ne sont pas des slicks, et il peuvent être utiliser même par temps de pluie.
Pour ce qui est du grip à proprement parler et des performances des 2 types présents dans ce mod (c'est moi qui les ai créés), tout dépend du pourcentage de pluie.

En clair, les deux gommes donnent des résultats différents mais peuvent données le même chrono au final en fonction du % de pluie, de la préférence de chacun, en fonction du setup et du type de pilotage du pilote...

[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

merci manu, ce qui serait sympa c'est que tu nous donnes les données technique des pneus :
CAD, à partir de quel pourcentage de pluie, selon les données constructeur (toi ) les pneus journée ne suffisent plus et il est conseillé de passer en pluie !!
Merci

[[GTC] manucobalt]

merci manu, ce qui serait sympa c'est que tu nous donnes les données technique des pneus :
CAD, à partir de quel pourcentage de pluie, selon les données constructeur (toi ) les pneus journée ne suffisent plus et il est conseillé de passer en pluie !!
Merci

J'ai répondu à cette question juste au dessus

Pour les données, les voila :

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// 996 GT3
// Tire brand found in *.hdc files refer to file name.

[SLIPCURVE]
Name="SoftLateral"
Step=0.00900
DropoffFunction=0.0
Data:
0.000000 0.174836 0.349483 0.518060 0.668882 0.790665 0.878928 0.936783 0.971287 0.989751
0.997978 1.000000 0.999918 0.999683 0.999296 0.998757 0.998068 0.997230 0.996247 0.995119
0.993851 0.992445 0.990904 0.989233 0.987435 0.985514 0.983476 0.981324 0.979063 0.976699
0.974236 0.971679 0.969034 0.966306 0.963500 0.960621 0.957675 0.954667 0.951601 0.948484
0.945319 0.942113 0.938869 0.935592 0.932288 0.928959 0.925611 0.922248 0.918873 0.915490
0.912103 0.908715 0.905329 0.901949 0.898577 0.895217 0.891871 0.888540 0.885228 0.881937
0.878668 0.875424 0.872206 0.869016 0.865854 0.862723 0.859624 0.856557 0.853523 0.850525
0.847561 0.844633 0.841742 0.838887 0.836070 0.833290 0.830549 0.827845 0.825180 0.822553
0.819964 0.817414 0.814901 0.812427 0.809991 0.807593 0.805232 0.802909 0.800623 0.798373
0.796160 0.793983 0.791841 0.789735 0.787664 0.785627 0.783624 0.781655 0.779719 0.777816
0.775944 0.774105 0.772297 0.770520 0.768773 0.767057 0.765369 0.763711 0.762081 0.760479
0.758904 0.757357 0.755836 0.754342 0.752873 0.751429 0.750010 0.748616 0.747245 0.745898
0.744574 0.743273 0.741993 0.740736 0.739500 0.738285 0.737090 0.735916 0.734762 0.733627
0.732511 0.731414 0.730335 0.729275 0.728231 0.727206 0.726197 0.725205 0.724230 0.723270
0.722326 0.721398 0.720485 0.719587 0.718703 0.717833 0.716978 0.716136 0.715308 0.714493
0.713692 0.712902 0.712126 0.711361 0.710609 0.709869 0.709140 0.708422 0.707716 0.707020
0.706335 0.705661 0.704997 0.704343 0.703700 0.703066 0.702441 0.701826 0.701220 0.700624
0.700036 0.699457 0.698886 0.698324 0.697770 0.697225 0.696687 0.696157 0.695635 0.695120
0.694613 0.694113 0.693620 0.693134 0.692655 0.692183 0.691718 0.691259 0.690806 0.690360
0.689920 0.689486 0.689058 0.688636 0.688219 0.687809 0.687404 0.687004 0.686610 0.686221
0.685838 0.685459 0.685086 0.684717 0.684353 0.683994 0.683640 0.683291 0.682946 0.682605
0.682269 0.681937 0.681610 0.681287 0.680967 0.680652 0.680341 0.680034 0.679730 0.679431
0.679135 0.678843 0.678554 0.678269 0.677988 0.677710 0.677435 0.677164 0.676896 0.676631
0.676370 0.676112 0.675856 0.675604 0.675355 0.675109 0.675000

[SLIPCURVE]
Name="SoftLong"
Step=0.00900
DropoffFunction=1.0
Data:
0.000000 0.174836 0.349483 0.518060 0.668882 0.790665 0.878928 0.936783 0.971287 0.989751
0.997978 1.000000 1.000654 1.001961 1.004575 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961
1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961
1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.001961 1.000654 0.996732 0.994118
0.992810 0.991503 0.991503 0.990196 0.988889 0.988889 0.986275 0.978431 0.973203 0.973203
0.973203 0.971895 0.970588 0.967974 0.967974 0.967974 0.967974 0.967974 0.966667 0.965359
0.958824 0.952288 0.948366 0.943137 0.943137 0.943137 0.943137 0.939216 0.935294 0.935294
0.932680 0.928758 0.924837 0.922222 0.916993 0.910458 0.909150 0.907843 0.905229 0.905229
0.903922 0.901307 0.893464 0.886928 0.885621 0.885621 0.885621 0.884314 0.879085 0.877778
0.876471 0.876471 0.873856 0.871242 0.867320 0.863399 0.855556 0.851634 0.846405 0.842484
0.842484 0.842484 0.839869 0.837255 0.837255 0.834641 0.830719 0.829412 0.829412 0.828105
0.828105 0.826797 0.825490 0.824183 0.820261 0.818954 0.816340 0.813725 0.812418 0.812418
0.812418 0.811111 0.809804 0.807190 0.805882 0.803268 0.799346 0.799346 0.796732 0.795425
0.795425 0.795425 0.792810 0.791503 0.791503 0.791503 0.791503 0.790196 0.786275 0.784967
0.784967 0.784967 0.784967 0.784967 0.784967 0.784967 0.784967 0.783660 0.783660 0.782353
0.781046 0.779739 0.778431 0.777124 0.777124 0.777124 0.777124 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281
0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281
0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281 0.769281
0.769281 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974
0.767974 0.770588 0.770588 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.767974 0.765359
0.765359 0.765359 0.765359 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052
0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052
0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.764052 0.762745 0.762745 0.762745 0.762745 0.762745 0.762745
0.762745 0.762745 0.762745 0.760131 0.758824 0.757516 0.757516

[SLIPCURVE]
Name="Lateral"
Step=0.009000                  // Slip step
DropoffFunction=1.0
Data:
0.000000 0.174836 0.349483 0.518060 0.668882 0.790665 0.878928 0.936783 0.971287 0.989751
0.997978 1.000000 0.999909 0.999649 0.999224 0.998638 0.997900 0.997019 0.996006 0.994874
0.993638 0.992314 0.990919 0.989470 0.987986 0.986487 0.984991 0.983517 0.982085 0.980712
0.979415 0.978212 0.977116 0.976142 0.975302 0.974606 0.974061 0.973675 0.973452 0.973316
0.972975 0.972402 0.971602 0.970580 0.969345 0.967907 0.966279 0.964471 0.962499 0.960376
0.958118 0.955739 0.953254 0.950680 0.948029 0.945317 0.942556 0.939759 0.936939 0.934105
0.931268 0.928438 0.925621 0.922827 0.920060 0.917327 0.914633 0.911981 0.909376 0.906819
0.904314 0.901863 0.899466 0.897124 0.894838 0.892609 0.890435 0.888318 0.886256 0.884249
0.882296 0.880395 0.878547 0.876750 0.875002 0.873302 0.871650 0.870043 0.868481 0.866962
0.865485 0.864048 0.862650 0.861290 0.859967 0.858679 0.857426 0.856205 0.855016 0.853858
0.852730 0.851630 0.850558 0.849512 0.848492 0.847497 0.846526 0.845577 0.844651 0.843747
0.842863 0.841999 0.841154 0.840328 0.839520 0.838729 0.837955 0.837197 0.836455 0.835728
0.835016 0.834317 0.833633 0.832962 0.832303 0.831657 0.831023 0.830401 0.829790 0.829190
0.828601 0.828022 0.827454 0.826895 0.826345 0.825805 0.825274 0.824752 0.824239 0.823733
0.823236 0.822747 0.822266 0.821792 0.821325 0.820866 0.820414 0.819969 0.819531 0.819099
0.818674 0.818255 0.817843 0.817437 0.817037 0.816642 0.816254 0.815872 0.815495 0.815123
0.814757 0.814397 0.814042 0.813692 0.813348 0.813008 0.812674 0.812345 0.812020 0.811701
0.811386 0.811076 0.810771 0.810471 0.810175 0.809884 0.809598 0.809316 0.809039 0.808766
0.808497 0.808233 0.807974 0.807718 0.807467 0.807221 0.806978 0.806740 0.806506 0.806277
0.806051 0.805830 0.805613 0.805400 0.805191 0.804987 0.804786 0.804589 0.804397 0.804208
0.804024 0.803844 0.803667 0.803495 0.803326 0.803162 0.803002 0.802845 0.802692 0.802544
0.802399 0.802258 0.802121 0.801988 0.801859 0.801733 0.801612 0.801494 0.801380 0.801270
0.801164 0.801062 0.800963 0.800868 0.800777 0.800690 0.800607 0.800527 0.800451 0.800378
0.800310 0.800245 0.800183 0.800126 0.800072 0.800021 0.800000

[SLIPCURVE]
Name="Long"
Step=0.009000                  // Slip step
DropoffFunction=1.0
Data:
0.000000 0.174836 0.349483 0.518060 0.668882 0.790665 0.878928 0.936783 0.971287 0.989751
0.997978 0.999999 0.999443 0.997888 0.995461 0.992359 0.988833 0.985169 0.981664 0.978601
0.976226 0.974732 0.974231 0.973854 0.972902 0.971388 0.969333 0.966764 0.963717 0.960230
0.956346 0.952111 0.947571 0.942775 0.937767 0.932593 0.927295 0.921913 0.916482 0.911036
0.905604 0.900210 0.894878 0.889626 0.884469 0.879422 0.874493 0.869691 0.865021 0.860488
0.856094 0.851840 0.847727 0.843752 0.839915 0.836213 0.832642 0.829200 0.825883 0.822686
0.819607 0.816640 0.813782 0.811028 0.808374 0.805815 0.803349 0.800971 0.798676 0.796462
0.794325 0.792261 0.790267 0.788340 0.786476 0.784673 0.782928 0.781238 0.779601 0.778014
0.776475 0.774981 0.773531 0.772123 0.770754 0.769423 0.768129 0.766868 0.765641 0.764445
0.763279 0.762142 0.761033 0.759950 0.758892 0.757858 0.756847 0.755858 0.754890 0.753943
0.753015 0.752106 0.751215 0.750341 0.749484 0.748642 0.747816 0.747004 0.746207 0.745424
0.744653 0.743896 0.743150 0.742417 0.741695 0.740984 0.740284 0.739594 0.738914 0.738244
0.737583 0.736932 0.736289 0.735655 0.735030 0.734412 0.733803 0.733201 0.732607 0.732021
0.731441 0.730869 0.730304 0.729745 0.729193 0.728648 0.728109 0.727576 0.727049 0.726529
0.726014 0.725505 0.725002 0.724505 0.724013 0.723527 0.723047 0.722571 0.722101 0.721637
0.721178 0.720724 0.720275 0.719831 0.719392 0.718958 0.718530 0.718106 0.717687 0.717274
0.716865 0.716461 0.716062 0.715667 0.715278 0.714893 0.714514 0.714139 0.713769 0.713403
0.713043 0.712687 0.712336 0.711989 0.711648 0.711311 0.710979 0.710652 0.710330 0.710012
0.709699 0.709391 0.709088 0.708789 0.708495 0.708206 0.707922 0.707643 0.707369 0.707099
0.706834 0.706574 0.706319 0.706069 0.705823 0.705583 0.705347 0.705116 0.704890 0.704669
0.704453 0.704242 0.704036 0.703835 0.703638 0.703447 0.703260 0.703079 0.702902 0.702730
0.702564 0.702402 0.702245 0.702094 0.701947 0.701805 0.701668 0.701537 0.701410 0.701288
0.701171 0.701059 0.700953 0.700851 0.700754 0.700662 0.700575 0.700493 0.700417 0.700345
0.700278 0.700216 0.700159 0.700107 0.700059 0.700017 0.700000

[COMPOUND]
Name="Trackday"
FRONT:                                // Arguments:ALL,FRONT,REAR,LEFT,RIGHT,FRONTLEFT, FRONTRIGHT,REARLEFT,REARRIGHT
DryLatLong=(1.610, 1.610)             // Lateral/longitudinal coefficients in dry weather
WetLatLong=(1.410, 1.410)             // Lateral/longitudinal coefficients in wet weather
Radius=0.320                          // Radius of tire
RadiusRPM=1.01e-6                     // Increased radius per unit RPM
Width=0.290                           // Width of tire
SpringBase=80000.0                   // Base spring rate with no pressure ( 1650lb/in @ 200kpsi)
SpringkPa=930.00                      // Spring rate per unit pressure
Damper=900.0                         // Damping rate of tire
SpeedEffects=(315.0,15.0)            // Speed at which grip drops to half (m/s, 0.0 to disable), speed load equivalency (see above)
LoadSens=(-3.10e-6, 0.65, 13300.0)    // Load sensitivity of tire (initial slope, final grip multiplier, final load)
LatPeak=(0.080, 0.24, 10800.0)       // Slip range where lateral peak force occurs depending on load
LongPeak=(0.080, 0.24, 10800.0)      // Slip range where longitudinal peak force occurs depending on load
LatCurve="SoftLateral"                    // Slip angle curve (data uses normalized angle)
BrakingCurve="SoftLong"                // Slip ratio curve under braking
TractiveCurve="SoftLong"               // Slip ratio curve under acceleration
CamberLatLong=(1.00, 0.10, 0.22)      // Peak camber angle, lateral gain at peak, longitudinal loss at 90 degrees
RollingResistance=2000.0              // Resistance torque (Nm) per unit deflection (m) on ground
Heating=(5.50e-1, 5.50e-3)            // Heat caused by (rolling, friction)
Transfer=(12.00e-3, 2.00e-3, 2.00e-4) // Heat transfer to (road, static air, moving air)
HeatDistrib=(12.00,100.0)              // (Max camber angle, max off-pressure) that affects heat distribution (higher number -> less temperature difference)
AirTreadRate=0.020                    // Heat transfer between tread and inside air
WearRate=0.250e-6                     // Wear rate constant
Softness=0.55                          // Softness is now just for AI strategic use
AISens=(0.65,12300.0)                 // Simplified AI load sensitivity (final grip mult, final load)
AIGripMult=1.03                      // Grip multiplier for AI vehicles (due to tire model simplification)
AIPeakSlip=0.120                      // Simple peak slip angle for AI vehicles
AIWear=0.517e-7                       // AI wear rate constant
Temperatures=(90.0,70.0)                     // Optimum operating temperature for peak forces, cold starting temp (Celsius)
OptimumPressureBase=90.0              // Base pressure to remain flat on ground at zero deflection
OptimumPressureMult=0.0190          // Multiplier by load to stay flat on ground
GripTempPress=(1.25, 0.30, 0.30)        // Grip effects of being below temp,above temp, and off-pressure (higher number -> faster grip dropoff)
//
REAR:
DryLatLong=(1.638, 1.638)
WetLatLong=(1.438, 1.438)
Radius=0.335
RadiusRPM=1.01e-6
Width=0.300
SpringBase=80000.0                   
SpringkPa=930.00
Damper=900.0
SpeedEffects=(315.0,15.0)
LoadSens=(-3.10e-6, 0.65, 13300.0)
LatPeak=(0.080, 0.24, 10800.0)
LongPeak=(0.080, 0.24, 10800.0)
LatCurve="SoftLateral"
BrakingCurve="SoftLong"
TractiveCurve="SoftLong"
CamberLatLong=(1.00, 0.10, 0.22)
RollingResistance=2000.0
Heating=(5.30e-1, 5.30e-3)         
Transfer=(12.00e-3, 2.00e-3, 2.00e-4)
HeatDistrib=(14.00,100.0)
AirTreadRate=0.020                    // Heat transfer between tread and inside air
WearRate=0.250e-6
Softness=0.55
AISens=(0.65,12300.0)
AIGripMult=1.07
AIPeakSlip=0.120
AIWear=0.675e-7
Temperatures=(90.0,70.0)
OptimumPressureBase=90.0
OptimumPressureMult=0.0210
GripTempPress=(1.25, 0.30, 0.30)


[COMPOUND]
Name="Wet Compound"
WetWeather=1
FRONT:                                // Arguments:ALL,FRONT,REAR,LEFT,RIGHT,FRONTLEFT, FRONTRIGHT,REARLEFT,REARRIGHT
DryLatLong=(1.425, 1.425)             // Lateral/longitudinal coefficients in dry weather
WetLatLong=(1.625, 1.625)             // Lateral/longitudinal coefficients in wet weather
Radius=0.320                          // Radius of tire
RadiusRPM=1.01e-6                     // Increased radius per unit RPM
Width=0.290                           // Width of tire
SpringBase=60000.0                   // Base spring rate with no pressure ( 1650lb/in @ 200kpsi)
SpringkPa=930.00                      // Spring rate per unit pressure
Damper=900.0                         // Damping rate of tire
SpeedEffects=(315.0,33.0)            // Speed at which grip drops to half (m/s, 0.0 to disable), speed load equivalency (see above)
LoadSens=(-3.10e-6, 0.65, 13300.0)    // Load sensitivity of tire (initial slope, final grip multiplier, final load)
LatPeak=(0.10, 0.30, 10800.0)       // Slip range where lateral peak force occurs depending on load
LongPeak=(0.10, 0.30, 10800.0)      // Slip range where longitudinal peak force occurs depending on load
LatCurve="Lateral"                    // Slip angle curve (data uses normalized angle)
BrakingCurve="Long"                // Slip ratio curve under braking
TractiveCurve="Long"               // Slip ratio curve under acceleration
CamberLatLong=(0.05, 0.07, 0.11)      // Peak camber angle, lateral gain at peak, longitudinal loss at 90 degrees
RollingResistance=2000.0              // Resistance torque (Nm) per unit deflection (m) on ground
Heating=(10.90e-1, 9.10e-3)          // Heat caused by (rolling, friction)
Transfer=(12.00e-3, 2.00e-3, 2.00e-4) // Heat transfer to (road, static air, moving air)
HeatDistrib=(12.00,100.0)              // (Max camber angle, max off-pressure) that affects heat distribution (higher number -> less temperature difference)
AirTreadRate=0.020                    // Heat transfer between tread and inside air
WearRate=0.250e-6                     // Wear rate constant
Softness=0.55                          // Softness is now just for AI strategic use
AISens=(0.65,12300.0)                 // Simplified AI load sensitivity (final grip mult, final load)
AIGripMult=1.01                      // Grip multiplier for AI vehicles (due to tire model simplification)
AIPeakSlip=0.120                      // Simple peak slip angle for AI vehicles
AIWear=0.517e-7                       // AI wear rate constant
Temperatures=(90.0,60.0)                     // Optimum operating temperature for peak forces, cold starting temp (Celsius)
OptimumPressureBase=90.0              // Base pressure to remain flat on ground at zero deflection
OptimumPressureMult=0.0190          // Multiplier by load to stay flat on ground
GripTempPress=(1.25, 0.30, 0.30)        // Grip effects of being below temp,above temp, and off-pressure (higher number -> faster grip dropoff)
//
REAR:
DryLatLong=(1.435, 1.435)
WetLatLong=(1.635, 1.635)
Radius=0.335
RadiusRPM=1.01e-6
Width=0.300
SpringBase=60000.0                   
SpringkPa=930.00
Damper=900.0
SpeedEffects=(315.0,33.0)
LoadSens=(-3.10e-6, 0.65, 13300.0)
LatPeak=(0.10, 0.30, 10800.0)
LongPeak=(0.10, 0.30, 10800.0)
LatCurve="Lateral"
BrakingCurve="Long"
TractiveCurve="Long"
CamberLatLong=(0.50, 0.07, 0.11)
RollingResistance=2000.0
Heating=(9.00e-1, 8.10e-3)         
Transfer=(12.00e-3, 2.00e-3, 2.00e-4)
HeatDistrib=(14.00,100.0)
AirTreadRate=0.020
WearRate=0.250e-6
Softness=0.55
AISens=(0.65,12300.0)
AIGripMult=1.05
AIPeakSlip=0.120
AIWear=0.675e-7
Temperatures=(90.0,60.0)
OptimumPressureBase=90.0
OptimumPressureMult=0.0210
GripTempPress=(1.25, 0.30, 0.30)



[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

ok ok... je voulais des données...
j'en ai !
merci

[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

très forte chance pour que je ne puisse pas courir le LMP ce soir...
désolé boys... bonne course !

[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

je m'offre 2,3 jours au vert... donc loin de mon ordi...
bon entrainement, je retrouverai la piste mouillée vendredi je pense... ça vous laisse le temps de pauffiner... MON setup !!

[[GTC] Nesh Chee]

salut, après une petite pause, de retour sur circuit et là mauvaise surprise, je me suis loupé dans la sauvegarde de mon dernier setup.. du coup ça glisse !!!
je vois que vous vous débrouillez comme des chef alors je dis bravo !!

heu ... alors si vous aviez un ti setup stable à me refiler histoire que je puisse rouler sécure dimanche, ça m'arrangerai bien !!
merci merci et peut être à demain pour rouler ensemble un peu...